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Feb 3rd, 2011 at 8:51pm
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Does anyone have a suggestion for camp stove?  I am leaning towards the MSR Whisperlite International.  I like the "burn any fuel" feature and it looks like it folds up pretty compact.  I welcome any suggestions
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Reply #1 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 9:12pm
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Good stove.  Doesn't simmer as well as some of MSR's other stoves.  Will sputter a bit above 10,000 feet (High pressure in the fuel tank will help mitigate both simmer and sputter a tad).  Might want to look into a trillium base if you plan to put in down on something other than rock (or other hard surface).  The rounded wire feet will pretty readily sink in soft soil/sand.  You can assist on heat distribution across the bottom of your pan with a diffuser plate (should be able to find one for about $5.00).  I think there is one that uses the term "scorch buster."  Try backpacker's panty ... they have them without the wire needed for the outback oven.

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Reply #2 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 12:23am
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I had two whisperlites, but I had problems eventually with both of them.  I used them for a long time, but went to something completely different, a snow peak giga power stove that uses butane canisters.  I actually still liked my Peak 1 Coleman--almost better than the whisperlite.  They all work and it really boils down to do you like to use white gas or canisters.  I thought the option of being able to use different gases would be a plus also, but in reality, I never used anything but white gas with the whisperlite.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 12:49am
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I've had whisperlite stoves since near the beginning. The new internationale is quite robust- the shaker jet makes all the difference. As DD notes they don't simmer very well, but they are good at throwing out efficient btus. Wire legs won't be a problem if you use the heat reflector they sell with the stove.

A year ago I picked up a canister stove- MSR pocket rocket- much quicker and easier to use. really small and light but difficult in the wind and close to useless if it gets cold.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 1:20am
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I travel with either a Simmerlite or a DragonFly as my primary stove.  My back-up stove is a Peak 1 ... generally the "all-in-one" rather than the component equivalent.  The Coleman stoves are generally superior to other stoves for simmering.  They just tend to be a bit more bulky.

As I recall, the Snow Peak Giga has a roarer-type burner like the DragonFly ... at least that's the configuration of my white-gas version.  Good burner, but typically a bit noisy.

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Reply #5 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 2:04am
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DentonDoc wrote on Feb 4th, 2011 at 1:20am:
I travel with either a Simmerlite or a DragonFly as my primary stove.  My back-up stove is a Peak 1 ... generally the "all-in-one" rather than the component equivalent.  The Coleman stoves are generally superior to other stoves for simmering.  They just tend to be a bit more bulky.

As I recall, the Snow Peak Giga has a roarer-type burner like the DragonFly ... at least that's the configuration of my white-gas version.  Good burner, but typically a bit noisy.

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The snow peak white gas (not to be confused with the giga which is a iso-butane stove) has a "whisperlite" style generator so it is not as loud as the dragonfly, a little more complicated as it has one more knob...and the base is not as big as the dragon fly... Both the dragon fly and the snowpeak white gas are fabulous simmers and more packable the the coleman stoves....I have run them all....the dragonfly has way more hours on it in my book but i have high hopes for the snowpeak product due to its quietness...


  
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Reply #6 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 2:32am
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ManBearPig wrote on Feb 3rd, 2011 at 8:51pm:
Does anyone have a suggestion for camp stove?  I am leaning towards the MSR Whisperlite International.  I like the "burn any fuel" feature and it looks like it folds up pretty compact.  I welcome any suggestions
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Do you want a stove that you can grow into or a stove that just boils water?

Is it only going to be used for Canoe Camping?

Iso Butane stoves dont care much for cold temperatures, winter camping in the future....late fall trips...how do you feel about the canisters and waste stream?

White gas is a very available fuel domestically....I have only once heard a story where the multifuel aspect of a stove came in handy...well sort of...a buddy and his friend ran out of fuel and "resorted" to the JD in an MSR XGK (a high altitude snow melter) and ended up melting the spatula and frying pan in the canyonlands of UT....

They are tools, and it all depends what you want to do with it and how much you want to spend...and how much you want to fuss with it...

Got my first Whisperlite in the 90's, I like pancakes and I gave it away after I used a friends MSR Firefly and then the Dragonfly came out it was a no brainer, but the noise does grate on a being...thats why I am moving to the above...isobutane is convenient though too but you pay for that cup of quick coffee Wink

There are a lot of options out there....whitegas, isobutane, alcohol, solid fuel, wood....StOOOOOves!

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Reply #7 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 2:43am
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I guess I'm the exception, but I like the coleman feather 442.  I carry two of them.  They're reliable and quiet. I love the quiet.  Some of the whisperlites, etc, sound like a jet engine revving up, IMO. 

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Reply #8 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 4:24am
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Puckster wrote on Feb 4th, 2011 at 2:43am:
I guess I'm the exception, but I like the coleman feather 442.  I carry two of them.  They're reliable and quiet. I love the quiet.  Some of the whisperlites, etc, sound like a jet engine revving up, IMO.  

Good point.  The feather 442 is actually the more recent manifestation of the Peak 1 (which I believe is out of production). 

If you are still interested in a multi-fuel model, the 442 also comes in a Dual-Fuel model (white and auto gas).

All of these models use the later configuration of the Peak 1 (Model 400B), including single level control.  (The original Peak--Model 400A--had 2 levers ... one for fuel flow and one for air mixture.)  Later production in this series are labeled Peak 1 Feather 400.

BTW:  Only the MSR DragonFly and XGK models use the "jet engine" burner. (I'm omitting the FireFly model, since it went out of production about 30 years ago.)

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Reply #9 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 4:47am
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marlin55388 wrote on Feb 4th, 2011 at 2:04am:
DentonDoc wrote on Feb 4th, 2011 at 1:20am:
I travel with either a Simmerlite or a DragonFly as my primary stove.  My back-up stove is a Peak 1 ... generally the "all-in-one" rather than the component equivalent.  The Coleman stoves are generally superior to other stoves for simmering.  They just tend to be a bit more bulky.

As I recall, the Snow Peak Giga has a roarer-type burner like the DragonFly ... at least that's the configuration of my white-gas version.  Good burner, but typically a bit noisy.

dd


The snow peak white gas (not to be confused with the giga which is a iso-butane stove) has a "whisperlite" style generator so it is not as loud as the dragonfly, a little more complicated as it has one more knob...and the base is not as big as the dragon fly... Both the dragon fly and the snowpeak white gas are fabulous simmers and more packable the the coleman stoves....I have run them all....the dragonfly has way more hours on it in my book but i have high hopes for the snowpeak product due to its quietness...

OK.  I was lazy and had to go dig out the Snow Peak.  Well, you are right (and I am right).  My model does indeed have the "waffle plate" style burner elements, like the Whisperlite stoves (altough the overall burner head is just about the size of a DragonFly).  However, my model (both on the stuff sack and fuel bottle) is labeled Snow Peak Giga Power WG Stove.  Maybe I should use the Snow Peak on the next trip ... 4 legs might be better than three.

dd (Stovaphile II)

  
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